[CALIBK12] response to Bogardus comments

[Marilyn Frenz]

AMEN!!!


--- On Mon, 12/15/08, Darla Brown <dbrown at garces.org> wrote:

> From: Darla Brown <dbrown at garces.org>
> Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] response to Bogardus comments
> To: "skrashen at yahoo.com" <skrashen at yahoo.com>, "calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu" <calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu>
> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 2:03 PM
> Excuse me, Gentlemen: What happened to the truce?
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu
> [calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Krashen [skrashen at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:19 AM
> To: Calibk12 at Listproc. Edu
> Subject: [CALIBK12] response to Bogardus comments
> 
> Immediate reactions to David Bogardus:
> 
> "I have been listening to Stephen Krashen for years
> tell us that reading incentive programs have little effect
> on student reading scores."
> 
> SK: No, I did not say this in my writings, my talks, and I
> have repeated my view in several recent posts.. Sometimes
> incentive programs increase reading comprehension and amount
> read, sometimes they don't.  My papers point out that no
> study has specifically looked at the impact of the tests and
> prizes.  Do they matter? We don’t know.  Are the gains due
> only to the time put aside for reading and the additional
> books? No study has compared books + time + tests + prizes
> with only time + prizes.
> 
> Also there have been no long-term studies of AR and there
> are reasons to be concerned about this.
> 
> "Students read better when they have unfettered access
> to books and they can read what they want …HOW this
> happens has been not well defined, and when attempts are
> made, it seems the role of the librarian is rather
> insignificant. Often it seems, we are being told to get out
> of the way and just fill orders as if we worked at a
> Literacy Home Town Buffet .. We can not just open the doors
> and hope they will come and check out all of our wonderful
> titles."
> 
> SK: This is not a quote from me.  I never said this. I
> have, over and over, emphasized the impact of the librarian
> and teacher, the impact of literature programs, read-alouds,
> etc.  There is strong research to support this, which I talk
> about all the time.
> 
> In fact, there is new research on this, from the most
> recent Phi Delta Kappan, from Celano and Neuman, after
> careful observation of what children do in public libraries.
> See also the recent   (September, 2008) School Library
> Journals cartoon-style article (Shameless, by La Duska
> Adriance and Ellen Linder) on encouraging reading, a case
> history: The method – a librarian helping a child find the
> right book.  The librarian knew children's literature,
> knew the child, and was dedicated and patient.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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