[CALIBK12] Subs in the library

Devers, April april.garciadevers at sbcusd.k12.ca.us
Thu Apr 23 11:33:30 PDT 2009 

I think that would be a great resource – especially for new librarians!

April
Rodriguez PREP


On 4/23/09 11:23 AM, "Jackie Siminitus" <csla2team at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Interesting .  Why not turn the substitute "problem" into an opportunity for
> the library to showcase the skills and topics that are taught and reinforced
> in the library throughout the year?  Why not identify a series of online
> tutorials or lessons for teachers to assign students when there is a
> substitute?  The School Library tutorials could be age-appropriate, but
> essentially teach or reinforce research skills, citation (i.e., NoodleBib),
> cybersafety, datebase searching (your databases or those available through
> Public or academic library), refresher on how to write 5 paragraph essays, or
> other topics.  There are TONS of tutorials available online.  Why not organize
> a set of quality tutorials that are age appropriate -- all on one school
> library tutorial blog (similar format to the School Library Learning 2.0
> tutorial, which has links to tutorials and other websites).  That would give
> higher visiblility to the library, library curriculum standards, library as a
> learning place.
> 
> Rules for quiet and proper behavior in the library could be at the top of the
> Library Tutorials blog and bookmark.  This could be created by one person, a
> district team, or a CSLA curriculum team.  Your thoughts?
> 
> Best wishes. 
> 
> - Jackie Siminitus, project manager
> CSLA2team at yahoo.com
>   http://www.linkedin.com/in/siminitusj
> http://SchoolLibraryLearning2.blogspot.com
> <http://schoollibrarylearning2.blogspot.com/>
> http://ClassroomLearning2.blogspot.com
> <http://classroomlearning2.blogspot.com/>
> http://DiscoveringAT.blogspot.com <http://discoveringat.blogspot.com/>
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Blanche Woolls <bwoolls at slis.sjsu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Blanche Woolls <bwoolls at slis.sjsu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] Subs in the library
>> To: "California School Library Association" <calibk12 at listproc.sjsu.edu>
>> Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 9:43 AM
>> 
>> ummmmmmm Wonder what parents would think of this lost day of instruction.
>> Would it be appropriate to ask the principal to gather teachers together and
>> get their input on what children who are sent to the library with a sub and
>> no plans are supposed to do? It might give the principal an opportunity to
>> participate in a little curriculum planning rather than meetings of other
>> administrators or disgruntled parents or misbehaving students.
>> 
>> Blanche
>> 
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Donna Purcell wrote:
>> 
>>> > 
>>> > I have to agree about the less quiet/control/rules for before school, at
>>> lunch, and
>>> > after school, but I also have issues with teachers scheduling their
>>> classes for the
>>> > library when they know they are going to be out.  I think that some
>>> teachers just
>>> > don?t want to do lesson plans, so they schedule their classes to come to
>>> the library
>>> > with no instructions for the sub at all.  It?s like having a free period
>>> all day. 
>>> > It?s very frustrating for me.
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > Donna Purcell
>>> > 
>>> > Library Media Technician
>>> > 
>>> > Jefferson Middle School
>>> > 
>>> > Oceanside, CA  92054
>>> > 
>>> > (760) 757-6060 x233
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>> __________
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > From: calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu
>>> </mc/compose?to=calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu>
>>> [mailto:calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu
>>> </mc/compose?to=calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu> ] On
>>> > Behalf Of Cathy Rettberg
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:15 PM
>>> > To: calibk12
>>> > Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] Subs in the library
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > After reading this post I decided to broadcast my reply that had gone to
>>> Jennifer:
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > "Actually mine (sub rules) is simple: anyone can come to the library
>>> anytime. 5
>>> > minutes notice is nice, and I whine a bit when they don't warn me
>>> beforehand, but if
>>> > they ask I rarely say no. I'd rather be crowded and overworked than turn
>>> down a
>>> > teacher who wants to use the library."
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > To continue: If I already knew about a lesson and the sub is bringing in
>>> the class, I
>>> > get to continue the good work that is already underway. If this is the
>>> first time I'm
>>> > hearing about a lesson, then at least I get to contribute where I wouldn't
>>> have
>>> > otherwise. 
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > My library is less about quiet/control/rules than it is about learning,
>>> which with
>>> > teens, often happens in groups, with discussion and yes, sometimes with
>>> noise. I'm
>>> > happy to say they love to come to the library though - it's not unusual to
>>> have 100
>>> > kids before/after during breaks and I welcome every one of them.
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > Cathy
>>> > 
>>> > -----------
>>> > 
>>> > Cathy Rettberg
>>> > 
>>> > Head Librarian, Menlo School
>>> > 
>>> > Atherton, CA
>>> > 
>>> > crettberg at menloschool.org </mc/compose?to=crettberg at menloschool.org>
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > On Nov 17, 2008, at 9:19 PM, Millam, Joy wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> > I re-read your post and wanted to also say that you will want to be
>>> careful not to
>>> > alienate your teaching staff.  It is so important for them to see us as
>>> education
>>> > partners and not as an enemy or difficult to deal with... I can certainly
>>> understand
>>> > that you've had issues in the past, but I would heartily encourage you to
>>> work with
>>> > those teachers to extract the desired behavior from the students and sub
>>> staff. 
>>> > Proper preparation by the teacher before the absence should work. Also, I
>>> wouldn't
>>> > punish all teachers for the sins of a few.  The more you work with the
>>> staff the
>>> > better. If you give them a path to success you will be giving them all a
>>> chance to be
>>> > successful.
>>> > 
>>> > If you take a hard line with everyone you may be closing the door to
>>> future
>>> > collaboration opportunities which hurts everyone.
>>> > 
>>> > Just my two cents.
>>> > 
>>> > Joy Millam
>>> > District Library Coordinator / Teacher Librarian
>>> > YALSA's Quick Picks for Reluctant Readers Committee Chairperson
>>> > Valencia High School
>>> > Placentia, CA
>>> > 714-996-4970 x3250
>>> > jmillam at pylusd.org </mc/compose?to=jmillam at pylusd.org>
>>> > 
>>> > http://bookdiva1.blogspot.com/
>>> > http://booktalksandmore.pbwiki.com
>>> > 
>>> > http://www.vhstigers.org/library/mrs_millam.jsp?rn=3833
>>> > 
>>> > "Libraries are not made; they grow." - Augustine Birrell
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu
>>> </mc/compose?to=calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu>  on behalf of Jennifer
>>> James
>>> > Sent: Mon 11/17/2008 8:27 PM
>>> > To: calibk12 at listproc.sjsu.edu </mc/compose?to=calibk12 at listproc.sjsu.edu>
>>> > Subject: [CALIBK12] Subs in the library
>>> > 
>>> > I am in a high school library that serves about 1,900 students.  When a
>>> teacher
>>> > informed me today that his classes would be coming in to the library with
>>> a substitute
>>> > later this week, I politely explained to him that I don't allow classes in
>>> the library
>>> > with a sub.  Past experiences with subs in the library have been less than
>>> pleasant,
>>> > so I prefer to avoid the situation completely.  Subs tend to sit and read
>>> the
>>> > newspaper or a magazine, and the students turn wild.  With 40 students in
>>> every class,
>>> > and a 3,000 square-foot facility, I simply can not supervise and teach at
>>> the same
>>> > time.  What is your policy or philosophy regarding classes in the library
>>> under the
>>> > supervision of a substitute teacher?
>>> > 
>>> > Thank you,
>>> > 
>>> > Jennifer James
>>> > Beyer High LMT
>>> > Modesto, CA
>>> > james.je at monet.k12.ca.us </mc/compose?to=james.je at monet.k12.ca.us>
>>> > 
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