[CALIBK12] Textbooks/Library Fines and Collecting of Monies

[Bianchi, Cynthia]

Donna, you are right on!
 
 I do not believe that helping a student to become responsible for his/her actions puts me in an adversarial position in the library. On the contrary, it allows me to use the "teachable moment" to the advantage of the student as well as the library, the school and society as a whole.
 
 At some point in our lives, we all must understand that we need to be accountable for our actions or undesirable consequences will occur - parking tickets, speeding tickets, and worse if we don't shape up and continue to think in a grandiose manner! And as a tax payer, I feel it is irresponsible to allow the loss of materials that I and millions of other working people have paid for, without demonstrating to future tax payers (students) how the system works and at least trying to recoup our losses. The responsible citizens and students do become the victims if the rules are not applied equally to all - the concept is called fairness and is what liberal thought and action has been all about for about 45 years.
 
Of course, there is always the opportunity for discretion and compassion in the application of the rules as individual situations warrant, but I believe that it is not in the best interest of anyone to allow young people to develop an unrealistic view of their "entitled" position in the world.
 
Cynthia Bianchi, TL
Ellen Ochoa Learning Center
Middle School Library
Local District 6
5027 Live Oak Street
Cudahy, Ca. 90201-4428
323-869-1327
cbb0290 at lausd.net

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From: calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu on behalf of Donna Purcell
Sent: Fri 1/30/2009 12:00 PM
To: Blanche Woolls; Glenda Webb
Cc: calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu
Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] Textbooks/Library Fines and Collecting of Monies



I disagree.  I think kids and parents need to be held accountable.  I
never turn a student with overdue books/fines away from spending time in
my library, but they just can't check anything out until the fine is
settled.  This includes fines from a previous school, also.  Just
deleting their fine is not fair to the students who follow the rules and
pay their fines.  I don't charge overdue fines.  But if they lost the
book, they need to pay for it.

Donna Purcell
Library Media Technician
Jefferson Middle School

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[mailto:calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu] On Behalf Of Blanche Woolls
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:30 AM
To: Glenda Webb
Cc: calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu
Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] Textbooks/Library Fines and Collecting of Monies

Since collecting fines in the first place makes an adversary role for
the
teacher librarian, why would you want to be chasing these students for
their entire school lives? The very thought that some mother or father
are
telling their children not to set foot in the school library because
their
last name might get them an overdue fine notice from 20 years before is
mind boggling.

The children and young adults in our schools are there because it is
their
school, and their library and their gymnasium. It might help them
refrain
from trashing or even burning their school or their library (some do,
and
the cost to "fix" is horrendous) if they saw it as their property and
not
a "them" and "us" situation.

Or maybe I misunderstood your question.

Blanche

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Glenda Webb wrote:

> Our district recently went to Destiny.  To clean up some of the
records they want to delete any fine before the beginning of this school
year, including those fines for students still going to this school
and/or are still in our school district.
>
> The new district directive regarding future assessment of fines is:
once a student leaves elementary school, all fines are deleted.  Once a
student leaves 8th grade, all fines are deleted.  Once a student leaves
high school, all fines are deleted. The district says this directive
meets the ed code.
>
> Can any one give me some logical, convincing arguments to sway the
district to reconsider their decision.
>
> Or give me some logical, convincing arguments that the district's
mandate is reasonable.
>
> Glenda Webb
> LCMS Library
>
>
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