[CALIBK12] California opens the door to free open sourcedigital textbooks

Thu May 7 13:47:01 PDT 2009

Right on Dr. Loertscher!

Barbara

>>> David loertscher <reader.david at gmail.com> 5/7/2009 1:09 PM >>>

Online textbooks are just one piece of a larger puzzle. There is
theentire movement to go paperless. I have not had a piece of paper from
a student in over a decade and I would never go back. There is the
challenge for teacher librarians to create virtual learning commons that
are giant conversations rather than one way library web pages that are
ignored and Googled around. There is theneed for each kid to construct
thier own information spaces rather than be at the mercy of the
juggernaut of the Internet. There is the need to have the information
professional - the teacher librarian at the heart of building these
information spaces and seeing that we are at the center of teaching and
learning - not a voice crying in the wilderness. It isone of the most
exciting opportunities of our lives and we can seise it. Or, we can just
wait to see what happens over a year or two and find ourselves obsolete.
I prefer looking at this, not as a treat but as an opportunity.

One other thing. There are many many devices coming on to the market.
Yes, there is the Kindle, but I also understand that the Blackberry
Storm is quite good; there are many $500 notebook computers coming on to
the market; there are iPhones and iTouches and I understand there might
be a larger screen iPhone coming out... the point is that it may not be
onesolution but the student's preferred device. They are already
learning how to carefor their cell phones.. they can handle it.

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Rock, Noeme <nrock at tusd.net> wrote:

I think this is exciting news! I personally was planning in piloting
something like this in our school with our IB students because the
textbooks on CDs are not working well at this point. Now I will wait to
see how the universities do on this experiment. Here is what I think is
positive about this:
1. Students may have all their textbooks at all times without having to
carry a heavy load.
2. Book processing, storage, damages, loss, will take a new meaning.
3. Cost: at first it may look like it will cost more. But when you
consider that one device will have all textbooks and even some library
books varying in price up to $150 per book (IB MATH), storage space,
personnel to process, distribute, collect, access damages, and repair
the paper textbooks, it might even be more reasonable going digital. As
for theft, one will steel what one does not have. In this case all
students will have a book reading device. 
4. Access and equity might be considered as a problem. However, I think
that many parents would buy the device to their own children which will
reduce the expenses in the acquisition of the devices for those who
cannot afford it. I know that at my school some parents I talked to
about my plan to pilot this were ready to purchase it for their
children. 

Noeme Rock, 
Teacher Librarian 
Tracy High School - A California Distinguished School
Email: nrock at tusd.net 
Tel: (209) 830-3360 X2046 & 2047
Fax (209) 830-3361
"What a school thinks about its library is a measure of what it feels
about education." - Harold Howe, former Secretary of Education.

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[mailto:calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu] On Behalf Of Barnes, Margaret
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:56 AM
To: Thomas Nixon; Barbara Duffy; calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu; Ann Sperske;
GlenWarren

Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] California opens the door to free open source
digital textbooks

Some universities are piloting Kindle/textbooks this fall. The article
is in eSchool News online, May 7th
http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=58654
Sincerely,
Maggie Barnes

District Librarian

Santa Ana Unified School District

1601 E. Chestnut Ave.

Santa Ana, CA 92701-6322

714-480-4784

Margaret.barnes at sausd.us

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[mailto:calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Nixon
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:12 AM
To: Barbara Duffy; calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu; Ann Sperske; GlenWarren
Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] California opens the door to free open source
digital textbooks

 The problem with using a Kindle is that there is no cost savings. Even
with some sort of education discount, they would still be three times
the cost of a textbook. Add to that the amount of money in losses each
year (because it really is easier to lose a Kindle than a textbook). Add
to that the number of Kindle repair and support people you would need to
add as employees to a large district.

Think how hard it is to get a student to pay for a $70 textbook. Now
multiply that amount. Also, Kindles would be high-theft items.

I do think we will be moving to some sort of digital reader. I think we
need to be looking for an as yet undiscovered company that can make them
for $40. You never know, but I expect that it may not be Apple or
Amazon.

And, yes, Williams would require you to supply each student who needs
one with one.

Tom Nixon
--
Teacher Librarian
Tehipite Middle School
630 N. Augusta Street
Fresno, CA 93701
(559) 457-3420, x. 570
Web: http://www.tehipitelibrary.org
Blog: http://notyourmotherslibrarian.blogspot.com

From: calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu [calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu]
On Behalf Of Barbara Duffy [BJDuffy at lbschools.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:27 AM
To: calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu; Ann Sperske; Glen Warren
Subject: Re: [CALIBK12] California opens the door to free open
sourcedigitaltextbooks
How about morphing to a Kindle for the books.  Wouldn't that serve the
purpose?  And students would be responsible for returning them in good
order just as they are with textbooks now.

Barbara

>>> "Ann Sperske" <asperske at nvusd.k12.ca.us> 5/7/2009 9:45 AM >>>
I read this and wrote a letter to O'Connell and Arnold immediately.
Great concept but there are so many problems with it. Access. Format.
Compatibility. Hardware. Computers. Editing, publishing, reviewing,
parent support  and school board review of new adoptions. The list goes
on. We don't even have enough computers on campus to have each kid
trying to access a textbook. No computers in the classrooms. Funding
issues. Broadband issues. Publishers' lobbyist groups. Database access
for every school -- quality databases like SFPL has.  We need a teacher
librarian at every school, heading every district library services dept,
support staff in every library, fully funded school libraries, refresh
protocols for technology, standardized professional development for
staff on information literacy ... and so much more before they try out
digital textbooks withOUT support.  Just a thought. 
Ann Sperske 
Google Certified Teacher Librarian 
Vintage High School    
From: calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu
[mailto:calibk12-bounces at lists.sjsu.edu] On Behalf Of Glen Warren
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:01 AM
To: calibk12 at lists.sjsu.edu
Subject: [CALIBK12] California opens the door to free open source
digitaltextbooksCalifornia opens the door to open source digital
textbooks.  Here is a snap shot of the press release and the link
provided below.

Gov. Schwarzenegger Launches First-in-Nation Initiative to Develop Free
Digital Textbooks for High School Students
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger today launched an initiative to make
California the first state in the nation to offer schools free,
open-source digital textbooks for high school students. The Governor
directed his Secretary of Education Glen Thomas to ensure these
resources are available for use in high school math and science classes
by fall 2009, a critical first step in helping ensure digital textbooks
are widely available to all California students.

link:  http://gov.ca.gov/press-release/12225/

Glen WarrenCoordinator of Media ResourcesOrange County Department of
Education200 Kalmus DriveSite Location:3001 Red HillCosta Mesa,
California 92626 Phone: 714-966-4208 "There are only two ways to live
your life.One is as though nothing is a miracle.The other is as if
everything is."- Albert Einstein

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